{"id":1010,"date":"2022-02-10T15:45:24","date_gmt":"2022-02-10T22:45:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/?page_id=1010"},"modified":"2022-02-19T14:50:21","modified_gmt":"2022-02-19T21:50:21","slug":"before-after-1960s-marvel","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/?page_id=1010","title":{"rendered":"Before &#038; After 1960s Marvel"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-accent-color\">L<\/mark>ee\u2019s creative endeavors, during and following the explosive genesis-years of the Marvel universe, present the picture of a man trying to escape an industry he was embarrassed to be part of. In the mid 50s, Stan tried his hand at creating newspaper strips, which were perceived as more respectable than comic books. Despite working closely with capable comic-strip agent, Toni Mendez, his half dozen or so notable pitches were nearly all turned down. Those that made it to syndication fizzled quickly <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-light-gray-color\">(Riesman, 2021).<\/mark> Lee\u2019s big ideas were by no means exclusive to the sequential art format, however. A perennial idea pitched by Lee amounted to nothing more than partnering famous or current event photographs with word bubbles containing \u201chilarious captions.\u201d A series of these books, titled <em>You Don\u2019t Say!, <\/em>did make it to the shelves <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-light-gray-color\">(Lee, 1963).<\/mark> Self-published titles <em>Golfers Anonymous: The Perfect Book for the Imperfect Golfer (and Aren\u2019t We All?),<\/em> and <em>Blushing Blurbs: A Ribald Reader for the Bon Vivant<\/em>, both followed the same premise. Stan Lee definitely had an affinity for adding dialogue to word balloons, but as a concept in-and-of-itself, the format was never a hit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"702\" src=\"http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/IMG_0272-1024x702.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1070\" srcset=\"http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/IMG_0272-1024x702.jpeg 1024w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/IMG_0272-300x206.jpeg 300w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/IMG_0272-768x526.jpeg 768w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/IMG_0272-1536x1053.jpeg 1536w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/IMG_0272-2048x1404.jpeg 2048w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/IMG_0272-973x667.jpeg 973w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/IMG_0272-508x348.jpeg 508w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Fig. 3 Neumann, Danny. Photograph of my copy of &#8220;You Don&#8217;t Say!&#8221; by Stan Lee. 19 Feb. 2022.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>After an appearance on The Dick Cavett Show in 1968, Lee concocted the framework of a talk show of his own, ostensibly focused on political issues facing the youth of America in the late 1960s. Although its aim was to give these youth a voice, Stan undercut that goal by treating his guests and the show\u2019s topics in a dismissive and paternalizing manner <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-light-gray-color\">(Riesman, 2021).<\/mark> Not surprising, the show never happened. Stan also developed relationships with filmmakers Alain Resnais, Lloyd Kaufman, and Ron Friedman. Numerous film proposals and other live-action projects were collaborated on and none materialized <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-light-gray-color\">(Riesman, 2021).<\/mark> \u201cOn January 5 [1972], Stan Lee headlines a critically-panned Carnegie Hall show, \u2018A Marvel-Ous Evening With Stan Lee,\u2019 meant to be a celebration of the Marvel Brand\u201d <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-light-gray-color\">(Morrow, 2019).<\/mark> Reading about this disastrous affair brings to mind the myth of Icarus, whose hubris blinded him to otherwise obvious danger. All the fawning praise Stan was receiving in the press apparently bolstered his ego into believing a self-serving production like this would succeed on charisma alone. It did not.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The later life ventures of Stan Lee present us with a dizzying stream of pitches that aimed to promote both potential new creations and expanded media outlets for existing Marvel properties. A fraction saw the light of day and those lucky few were not long for this world. It would be easy to envision Lee trying to recapture the magic of the early Marvel bullpen days with his Excelsior Comics, Stan Lee Media, and POW! Entertainment ventures. Each endeavor produced a myriad of ideas, each gathered new bullpens of talent, and each ended without producing anything noteworthy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the mid-nineties, as a rebuke to what he saw as a Marvel Comics gone astray, Lee decided he\u2019d launch a new line of books, starring all new characters of his indisputable creation, all supervised under his watchful eye. He dubbed the new line Excelsior Comics. Although he brought talented contributors into the mix, it was observed: \u201cThere was widespread concern among the creators tapped for Excelsior Comics that the whole enterprise was dead on arrival\u201d <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-light-gray-color\">(Riesman, 2021). <\/mark>Writer, Kurt Busiek, who was tapped to develop a character called Omega, eventually realized the whole Excelsior Comics endeavor was not long for this world and admitted to feeling relieved when it was finally cancelled. This episode is enlightening because it shows how second-hand perceptions of Stan, even within the industry, placed him on a glorified pedestal that did not match his talents. But once industry talent actually worked with him on creative projects, there was a realization that much of the legend was smoke and mirrors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"369\" src=\"http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/SLM-POW-1024x369.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1074\" srcset=\"http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/SLM-POW-1024x369.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/SLM-POW-300x108.jpg 300w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/SLM-POW-768x277.jpg 768w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/SLM-POW-973x351.jpg 973w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/SLM-POW-508x183.jpg 508w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/SLM-POW.jpg 1388w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Fig. 4. Stan Lee Media and POW! Entertainment logos<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In 1998, Stan Lee partnered with Peter Paul, a thrice convicted felon, to form Stan Lee Media (SLM). The company grew quickly but was essentially a house of cards. Much could be written about shady business practices, investigations by the SEC, and fraudulent stock manipulation, but those are peripheral to a discussion of Stan\u2019s creativity. Ostensibly, Paul was building a company that would allow Lee to birth new characters and new stories and then unleash them on the world via the internet. There was a lot of buzz and there were, especially in hindsight, absurdly grandiose goals. And then the new properties started taking shape: <em>The 7<sup>th<\/sup> Portal<\/em>, <em>The Accuser<\/em>, <em>The Drifter<\/em>, <em>Stan\u2019s Evil Clone<\/em>. There was a collaboration with the Backstreet Boys and almost-collaborations with Mary J. Blige and RZA. Legitimate bigwigs, like Francis Ford Coppola were enticed into participating and a world-wide reach was envisioned. Eventually, people started seeing through the grand fa\u00e7ade. Mark Evanier, a SLM employee at the time, put it this way: \u201cI used to walk around that office and say \u2018We don\u2019t sell anything. We have no product. We have nothing.\u2019 There was always a deal pending for us, <em>7th Portal<\/em> or a <em>Drifter<\/em> line or something else, but the deals never materialized\u201d <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-light-gray-color\">(Riesman, 2021). <\/mark>The <em>7<sup>th<\/sup> Portal<\/em> project got the farthest but then become the object of a lawsuit when two writers who spoke to Lee in the mid-nineties about a differently-titled project sued SLM for copying that concept and slapping it on the 7<sup>th<\/sup> Portal franchise. They won.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On the heels of SLM\u2019s implosion, Lee and partners developed a new company called POW! Entertainment. Yet again, much could be written about this enterprise\u2019s criminal misdeeds, but let\u2019s focus on the merits of its creative output. The mission of POW! was, as with SLM, to create and launch new properties that sprung from the mind of Stan Lee. A number of movies were announced: <em>The Femizons<\/em>, <em>The Double Man<\/em>, <em>Nightbird, <\/em>and<em> The Forever Man<\/em>. None materialized. There was a pitch for a Playboy-collaboration cartoon called <em>Hef\u2019s Superbunnies<\/em>, and a superhero comic starring Ringo Starr. Neither saw the light of day. There were endless projects that operated under the premise that simply slapping Stan Lee\u2019s name on something would ensure success: <em>Stan Lee\u2019s The Secret of the Super Six<\/em>, <em>Stan Lee\u2019s Superhero Christmas, Stan Lee\u2019s Lightspeed, Stan Lee\u2019s Sunday Comics,<\/em> a deal with the Sci-Fi Channel to create a movie called <em>Stan Lee\u2019s Harpies, <\/em>a multi-medium epic called<em> Stan Lee\u2019s Mighty 7, <\/em>a documentary titled <em>With Great Power: The Stan Lee Story<\/em>. Suffice it to say, the name did not help pull these projects from their eventual oblivion. A deal with a Disney affiliate to make three movies with the Stan Lee name never happened. A partnership with comics publisher BOOM! Studios had Lee creating new superheroes and then supervising other artists and writers as they developed them. Writer, Mark Waid attests to Lee\u2019s close participation in the process, recounting one particular meeting that presented the rough draft of an upcoming issue, to which a disappointed Lee said: \u201cI can\u2019t have my name on this\u201d <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-light-gray-color\">(Riesman, 2021).<\/mark> Despite Lee\u2019s oversight or, perhaps because of it, each of the Lee\/BOOM! comics were cancelled soon after launch. There was another announcement for a movie called <em>Arch Alien<\/em>, a children\u2019s book called <em>Dragons vs. Pandas<\/em>, a multimedia franchise called <em>Nitron<\/em>. You would not be alone if your response to those titles was: \u201cnever heard of them.\u201d \u201cPOW\u2019s primary product was announcements. Throughout the last decade and a half of Stan\u2019s life, POW flooded the press with news about an overwhelming number of deals and projects that had emerged, Athena-like, from the head of Stan \u2026 None of these projects ever saw the light of day\u2026\u201d <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-light-gray-color\">(Riesman, 2021).<\/mark> The one property that did emerge from the POW! days that may have some name recognition is <em>Stripperella<\/em>. The concept consisted of turning actress Pamela Anderson into a crime-fighting exotic-dancer. Once that work was done, Lee sold the idea (after adding his name before the title, i.e. <em>Stan Lee\u2019s Stripperella<\/em>) to TNN. The animated show was then developed by other writers. It was cancelled after 13 episodes. And yet this was the anomalous POW! success story.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"950\" height=\"638\" src=\"http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/2019-08-28_5d66a5ce0e969_Stripperella2003-2004R1DVDCover-950x638-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1076\" srcset=\"http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/2019-08-28_5d66a5ce0e969_Stripperella2003-2004R1DVDCover-950x638-1.jpg 950w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/2019-08-28_5d66a5ce0e969_Stripperella2003-2004R1DVDCover-950x638-1-300x201.jpg 300w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/2019-08-28_5d66a5ce0e969_Stripperella2003-2004R1DVDCover-950x638-1-768x516.jpg 768w, http:\/\/cantinadan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/2019-08-28_5d66a5ce0e969_Stripperella2003-2004R1DVDCover-950x638-1-508x341.jpg 508w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><figcaption>Fig. 5. 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